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NSA vs. FWB  

Can_we_explore 97M
7 posts
1/3/2019 9:30 am
NSA vs. FWB

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seems6666 53F  
4838 posts
1/3/2019 10:20 am

i agree with Lala... to me... NSA is nothing except sex, where as FWB means "friends" you do other things together.


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
1/3/2019 12:04 pm

FWB: ... the person just wants to get to know you before they actually fuck you .... Avoid that way. That's what people may generally think, but the problem with waiting around to become "Friends" first, is that the woman could turn around and say, "We're friends, if we have sex, that could ruin the friendship". ...........She means, "I like the attention I get from you , without giving you sex". So you lose.

For that reason, you seek sexual attraction and sexual desire, first. "FIRST" you have sex. .THEN. Maybe you become friends.

You always want to be sure there will be sex, otherwise you could be only wasting your time , basically padding your seat in her "Friendzone", where you won't get any sex at all from her.

And you're right... a fwb is not a monogamous situation.. a persons fwb is free to see whomever else they want... and even cultivate a more serious relationship with another.... in which case , you no longer receive the benefit [sex] from them.

Now , from the perspective of the new guy in your fwb life, you're that guy who would bang his girl [and waiting for an opening to bang her again]........so you are not welcome around her anymore, not even under the guise of "Her friend".


redrockrascal 65M
23580 posts
1/3/2019 3:59 pm

    Quoting IVFalternative:
    NSA is the National Security Agency, who will fuck you whenever and however they wish.

    FWB is the acronym for the Russian security service, used if you've had to much vodka. The sober spelling is FSB. They will also fuck you whenever and however they wish.

    After fucking their respective victims the NSA and FSB will often swap them with each other, so it's really one big abusive swinger party.

    Either way, you're getting fucked.

    Hope this clears up any misunderstandings


When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.


Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
1/5/2019 12:20 pm

but that's just it; a nsa can be a one time thing because there's no obligation or ground rules. .... Can be, but also could be an on-going thing, just without any expectations of emotional attachment, no expectations of commitment, no expectation of compensation. Basically , NSA is like "Dating" non-exclusively.

The "friend" in fwb is supposed to be used as a metaphor not literally;.... No. Fwb means you have a friend with whom you have sex [sex being the benefit]. Sure, okay, "Benefit" is the metaphor. If you want to be strictly literal , you'd say "Sex with friends".

Think about all those women you know, or have known, that told you , "Let's just be friends". .... Her "Benefit" from that, is attention and validation [from you].

You should always respond with, "No". And walk away. Why? Because she knows you want to have sex with her, but she doesn't want to have you around for anything else except to give her attention and validation when she wants or needs it.

matter of fact the whole phrase is a metaphor,... No... Only "Benefit" is the metaphor.

"friends" for acquaintance with. .... No . "Friends" means just that, "Friends".

A better terminology would be awb-acquaintance or cwb-companion.... No. Although you could have sex with an acquaintance, or with a companion.

"No", because there is a hierarchy of importance, attachment, and trust..

1. Companion = usually your spouse or someone very important to you, the attachment is strong, and the trust is strong.
2. Friend = Someone you have a great deal of personal trust with.
3. Acquaintance = Someone you know of, but not very well. Like internet connections.

I understand that "friends" has different layers but when used in conjnction with sex its misleading on both ends.....ha..Not really. When used in conjunction with sex, women tend to say, "No".
For that reason, "Sex" should be had first, not "Become friends, then have sex".

For example...you see a woman with whom you want to have sex. Your approach is , "I want to have sex with you"....NOT, "I want to be your friend".

Those men who are "Friendzoned", they won't be getting any sex, ever... he made the mistake of approaching her firstly with, "I want to be your friend".
Problem with that is: She now sees him as her gay buddy. And if he brings up sex, she will say, "If we have sex, that will ruin the friendship". ................Really, though, sex doesn't ruin the friendship.. only ruins the friendship for her. She no longer can use him for attention and validation. Now it's a package deal ...attention, validation and sex.


Can_we_explore replies on 1/9/2019 2:26 am:
LOL-you're making this unnecessarily difficult. The entire phrase of fwb & nsa is metaphorical (refer to my response on the post above); you stated it. I don't personally use the phrases because when im fucking a female then its understood that we're just fucking; if the female wants to go get to know me then thats what we do. Some women take fucking for a relationship and some take not going out as not interested in them. If a woman wants to fuck you then she'll fuck you regardsless of what she wants from you or if she's involved with anonther dude or whatever her case is. It's not about who has the upper hand; if a women wants to just be friends then you're reading the wrong signals. I have more sex with married women than "single" woman and Ive never had a woman say "lets just be friends"; even if they did I would just move on to the next female-its not that complicated. Acquaintances and companions are just different levels of friendship; is there a level hierarchy? That's a personal issue not the general consensus.

Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
1/9/2019 3:14 am

LOL-you're making this unnecessarily difficult. ... Not that difficult really. People like communication to be concise, and understandable.

For instance if a person referred to someone as their "Partner"... this is poor communication, because this could mean they are gay, or maybe police, or maybe no actual intimacy at all, just business.

The entire phrase of fwb & nsa is metaphorical ... No.. FwB, NSA, are literally what they mean. So, not "Metaphorical".

"Benefit", is a metaphor for "Sex". I'll give you that.

I don't personally use the phrases because when im fucking a female then its understood that we're just fucking; ... Yes, that can also be known as "Dating".

Some women take fucking for a relationship ... I agree with that. In fact some women [also] complain about men getting all clingy just because she had sex with him. When it was just a one-night-stand or dating.

and some take not going out as not interested in them. ... Yeah, but that's pretty accurate... You don't go out with a woman, after one time, or if at all... that pretty much means , "Not interested".

If a woman wants to fuck you then she'll fuck you regardsless of what she wants from you... Sure, there are women who will just fuck...but usually if a woman puts out, she has a plan.

or if she's involved with anonther dude .... .ha,.. yeah those are fun.

if a women wants to just be friends then you're reading the wrong signals. .... Maybe... but I'd say , if a woman just wants to be friends, and you want to fuck her... walk away... sex is not happening.

I have more sex with married women than "single" woman... Me, too. The hotels near the airport are great for picking up these women. Business women , in town for a meeting... away from her husband, are the best.

and Ive never had a woman say "lets just be friends"; ... Well, if they do, just walk away.

even if they did I would just move on to the next female-its not that complicated. ... Yep.. simple.

Acquaintances and companions are just different levels of friendship; is there a level hierarchy? .... Yes, there's a hierarchy. "Acquaintances" are not someone you'd entrust with your house keys, not actually "Friends". For instance if you had a friend Dave, and Dave had a friend Larry... Larry would be the "Acquaintance", to you.
"Companions" are more intimate with you. Again, not actually "Friends", more than "Friends". Often they are your spouse or steady girlfriend [which is social word for: Someone you have sex with often].

But whatever.


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