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Blogs > spiderj72 > Going to Hell for sure

Passion  

spiderj72 51M
5951 posts
4/11/2012 8:10 pm
Passion

So for those of you who are keeping track i am almost caught up replying to posts to my own blog and i have read a few other peoples stuff i follow so i am somewhat ahead right now. I have been kicking around the passion idea for a portion of the day. Here is what i have come up with.

Imagine for a second that passion is handcuffed to desire. That passion and desire are forced to happen together. I don't mean this as the lust and horny pair that we know are handcuffed together. What i mean is that to have passion there must be desire and to have a desire there must also be passion for something.

Let us take sex out of the equation (i know blasphemy around this blog) and look at it more critically. If you say you are passionate about food it means that you desire food. And to say that you desire food means that you are passionate about food. This is different once you start using adjectives and qualifiers on the objects of desire and passion.

The desire for new restaurants is not in the passion for new tastes but in the thrill of discovery. Likewise with sex, an affair can be as much about the thrill of the seduction as the desire for a new bedmate, or a married partner, or an unobtainable neighbour or whatever.

Just as passion and desire run hand in hand they also sharpen and heighten each other. Desiring someone heightens the passion. Just as someone is passionate with you only heightens your desire of them. Perhaps passion is the present tense of desire. Passion is desire turned immediate. I think i need to ponder on that for awhile. It seems i might be onto something there.

To posit that passion is the immediacy of desire leads to a chicken and egg type scenario. One that i did not count on and a little perplexed by. Because to me you cannot desire something without know it first. I do not desire your company without knowing something about you, so i cannot be passionate about you without knowing you, so maybe i am right.

Feedback please, i may have lost where i am going with this. Thanks

OneStrangeBeast 52M  
2167 posts
4/11/2012 9:01 pm

 I briefly covered this in one of my own posts....
.... the egg definitely came before the chicken as reptiles were laying them before birds
I hope this helps. I'm a dumbass


Gypsy726 60F
459 posts
4/11/2012 9:02 pm

 de·sire/dəˈzī(ə)r/
Noun:
A strong feeling of wanting to have something or wishing for something to happen.
Verb:
Strongly wish for or want (something).
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pas·sion/ˈpaSHən/
Noun:
Strong and barely controllable emotion.
A state or outburst of such emotion.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I see "desire" as stated above. but you are right once you get to know a person and you "desire" that persons company then "passion" can be had or experienced..
~ Gypsy ~


spiderj72 51M
7898 posts
4/12/2012 10:25 am
    Quoting OneStrangeBeast:
    I briefly covered this in one of my own posts....
    .... the egg definitely came before the chicken as reptiles were laying them before birds
    I hope this helps. I'm a dumbass
yes i seem to recall that line of thinking.


spiderj72 51M
7898 posts
4/12/2012 10:26 am
    Quoting Gypsy726:
    de·sire/dəˈzī(ə)r/
    Noun:
    A strong feeling of wanting to have something or wishing for something to happen.
    Verb:
    Strongly wish for or want (something).
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    pas·sion/ˈpaSHən/
    Noun:
    Strong and barely controllable emotion.
    A state or outburst of such emotion.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I see "desire" as stated above. but you are right once you get to know a person and you "desire" that persons company then "passion" can be had or experienced..
see i always chuck the dictionary out and just go with what my gut tells me the definition might be. it seems to work out okay for me that way.


spiderj72 51M
7898 posts
4/12/2012 10:30 am
    Quoting  :
every now and then i go deep into thought about stuff like this. very interested to see what you feedback is after a couple of days thought. i didnt want to take the break the internet in my rented room went bananas for a couple of days. had no way to post, really wanted to keep the everyday thing going.


spiderj72 51M
7898 posts
4/12/2012 10:33 am
    Quoting Discretewizard:
    I think, and this is just off the top of my head, it's a ying/yang thing. Seperate yet joined
you might be right. you might just be right. that was my initial thought


spiderj72 51M
7898 posts
4/12/2012 10:34 am
    Quoting  :
interesting glimpse at your life there linds.


spiderj72 51M
7898 posts
4/12/2012 10:36 am
    Quoting  :
yes it is a rare place to find yourself in. but enjoyable both getting there and trying to stay there.


spiderj72 51M
7898 posts
4/12/2012 10:38 am
    Quoting  :
let me give you all kinds of concepts to ponder.


rm_impish_pixie 61F
6862 posts
4/12/2012 6:29 pm

 Passion is desire turned immediate.

I like that. I don't see the need to complicate the thought. Desire is complicated enough...especially when it's misplaced.
I make mistakes, I am out of control & at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best. ~Marilyn


spiderj72 51M
7898 posts
4/12/2012 7:59 pm
    Quoting rm_impish_pixie:
    Passion is desire turned immediate.

    I like that. I don't see the need to complicate the thought. Desire is complicated enough...especially when it's misplaced.
yeah that might be a little bit of brilliance shining through my usual bullshit.


spiderj72 51M
7898 posts
4/23/2012 8:15 pm
    Quoting  :
an interesting take on things. i dig it a lot. need to see how it fits into the framework of what i have laid out.


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